Re: WWII songs - Lili Marlene

From: Peter Sinclair (Peter@LIMEDENE.DEMON.CO.UK)
Date: Sun Apr 11 1999 - 14:34:06 PDT


Ronald Gillen's detailed explanation fully endorses and explains the
basic info as I remembered the history of the song.

But where and when does the song "WHERE HA VE ALL THE FLOWERS
GONE...." sung by Marlene Dietrich originate.

Regards-Peter S. .


On Sat, 10 Apr 1999 21:14:50 -0500, you wrote:

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>Lilli Marlene
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>London, July 12, 1943--
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>      This is the story of a song. Its name is "Lilli Marlene" and it
>was
>written in Germany in 1938 by Norbert Schultze and Hans Leit. In
>due course they tried to publish it and it was rejected by about two
>dozen publishers. Finally it was taken up by a singer, Lala
>Anderson, a Swedish girl, who used it for her signature song. Lala
>Anderson has a husky voice and is what you might call the
>Hildegarde type.
>
>      "Lilli Marlene" is a very simple song. The first verse of it goes:
>"Underneath the lanterns, by the barracks square, I used to meet
>Marlene and she was young and fair." The song was as simple as
>that. It went on to tell about Marlene, who first liked stripes and then
>shoulder bars. Marlene met more and more people until, finally, she
>met a brigadier, which was what she wanted all along. We have a
>song with much the same amused cynicism.
>
>      Eventually Lala made a record of the song and even it was not
>very popular. But one night the German station in Belgrade, which
>sent out programs to Rommel's Afrika Korps, found that, due to a
>little bombing, it did not have many records left, but among a few
>uninjured disks was the song "Lilli Marlene." It was put on the air to
>Afrika and by the next morning it was being hummed by the Afrika
>Korps and letters were going in demanding that it be played again.
>
>      The story of its popularity in Africa got back to Berlin, and
>Madame Goering, who used to be an opera singer, sang the song of
>the inconstant "Lilli Marlene" to a very select group of Nazis, if
>there is such a thing. Instantly the song was popular and it was
>played constantly over the German radio until Goering himself grew
>a little sick of it, and it is said that, since inconstancy is a subject
>which is not pleasant to certain high Nazi ears, it was suggested
>that the song be quietly assassinated. But meanwhile, "Lilli
>Marlene" had got out of hand. Lala Anderson was by now known as
>the "Soldiers' Sweetheart." She was a pin-up girl. Her husky voice
>ground out of portable phonographs in the desert.
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>      So far, "Lilli" had been solely a German problem, but now the
>British Eighth Army began to take prisoners and among the spoils
>they got "Lilli Marlene." And the song swept through the Eighth
>Army. Australians hummed it and fastened new words to it. The
>powers hesitated, considering whether it was a good idea to let a
>German song about a girl who did not have all the sterling virtues
>become the favorite song of the British Army, for by now the thing
>had crept into the First Army and the Americans were beginning to
>experiment with close harmony and were putting an off-beat into it.
>It wouldn't have done the powers a bit of good if they had decided
>against the song.
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>      It was out of hand. The Eighth Army was doing all right in the
>field and it was decided to consider "Lilli Marlene" a prisoner of
>war, which would have happened anyway, no matter what the
>powers thought about it. Now "Lilli" is getting deeply into the
>American forces in Africa. The Office of War Information took up the
>problem and decided to keep the melody, but to turn new words
>against the Germans. Whether this will work or not remains to be
>seen. "Lilli Marlene" is international. It is to be suspected that she
>will emerge beside the barrack walls -- young and fair and
>incorruptly inconsistent.
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>      There is nothing you can do about a song like this except to let
>it
>go. War songs need not be about the war at all. Indeed, they rarely
>are. In the last war, "Madelon" and "Tipperary" had nothing to do
>with war. The great Australian song of this war, "Waltzing Matilda,"
>concerns itself with sheep-stealing. It is to be expected that some
>groups in America will attack "Lilli," first on the ground that she is
>an enemy alien, and, second, because she is no better than she
>should be. Such attacks will have little effect. "Lilli" is immortal.
>Her
>simple desire to meet a brigadier is hardly a German copyright.
>Politics may have dominated and nationalized, but songs have a
>way of leaping boundaries.
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>      And it would be amusing if, after all the fuss and heiling, all
>the
>marching and indoctrination, the only contribution to the world by
>the Nazis was "Lilli Marlene."
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>Sinclair Hart wrote:
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>> According to a sheet I just printed, Lili Marlene was based on a German poem
>> of 1915, but is it true that it wasnt sung until WWII? And does anyone
>> remember the name of a Swedish singer named Lala Anderson, who, I think,
>> recorded before Marlene Dietrich?. Can anyone enlighten?


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