Eratosthenes Experiment on Mars using the Sundial

From: V Laxmanan (vlaxmanan@hotmail.com)
Date: Tue Jan 06 2004 - 20:54:14 PST


Eratosthenes Experiment on Mars using the Sundial
Posted by V. Laxmanan, January 6, 2004


   After the landing of NASA's Rover on Mars, I started thinking about an 
interesting experiment and sent the following email to the Principal 
Investigators at the NASA's JPL.

   As noted in my earlier posting today (Jan 6, 2004), and in other earlier 
postings, the shadow lengths reported by students do not agree with the 
theoretically predicted values (if we make the assumptions made by 
Eratosthenes, spherical earth and parallel rays from the sun). These 
anomalies suggest that we need some real precision measurements, even here 
on Earth.

  Now, with Rover on Mars, it would be of interest to repeat the 
Eratosthenes Experiment on this planet as well.  We are looking for signs of 
life on Mars.  But, if you think about it, humans indeed, are now the aliens 
on Mars with our new gadgets.

  However, repeating the Eratosthenes Experiment here might not be as easy 
as it sounds.  For example, we do not know if there is an equinox on Mars, 
or when it occurs.  Although, this is not important, the mathematics is much 
more complicated if we use shadow length measurements made on days other 
than the equinox.

  But, I would say, let's first get the data now that Rover is on Mars and 
then let's worry about the theory, math, etc.


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The following is the text of the email message sent to Professors Bell and 
Squyres about the proposed experiment.


Dear Professors Bell and Squyres:

  For the last hour, I have been watching the Mars News Conference, where 
both of you were answering questions. Your remarks about the Mars Sundial 
caught my attention. I was very excited and then visited the JPL and Cornell 
University websites to see if I could find photos of the Mars Sundial. I am 
both excited and also a bit disappointed.  Let me explain.

  As you know, the sundial is a vertical stick that casts a shadow. As the 
earth makes its daily  rotation about its own axis, the length of the shadow 
changes.  The orientation of the shadow also changes (with respect to 
east-west direction here on earth) and this can be used to tell time.

  And, as you know, the Greek Eratosthenes, however, did something 
remarkable from the shadow length observations at Alexandria and Syene, in 
ancient Egypt. He deduced the radius and hence the circumference of the 
earth from the shadow length measurements, on the day of the equinox.

  Interestingly, the Eratosthenes Experiment is now being repeated and 
performed by elementary, middle, and high school students, and even some 
college students, from all over the world. This has yielded large volumes of 
shadow length data from various latitudes, not available to Eratosthenes.  I 
got interested in this work about a year ago and started analyzing the 
shadow length data reported by students, over the last five years, since 
such data was made available on the Internet.

  I notice some interesting anomalies as a result of my analysis.  To make a 
long story short, I find that the shadow lengths do not agree with the 
theoretical values (see attached Microsoft Word and PowerPoint files).  The 
discrepancies are much too large to be attributed to errors in shadow length 
measurements and even genuine experimental difficulties. I have discussed 
these points in articles posted on the website Eratosthenes Experiment 
Project (see http://www.youth.net/ , then click on Eratosthenes Experiment). 
  This has certainly generated some interest and from time to time I have 
received emails from students and teachers from around the world.  I have 
also performed the experiment, myself, during the equinoxes on March and 
September 2003. However, I would like to perform even more accurate 
measurements and have some ideas about how to build a very precision unit 
(or you may call a sundial) to reduce errors in the measurements.

  After the successful landing of Rover on Mars, I started wondering if we 
could make shadow length measurements on Mars using either the Mars sundial 
or any of the vertical posts that are located on the Rover and whose shadows 
fall on what can be reasonably taken to flat surfaces. From such data we can 
compute the radius of Mars, if we make the assumptions made by Eratosthenes. 
  We can also use the times taken by European and NASA spacecrafts now 
orbiting Mars to deduce the mass and the radius of the planet.  (I have also 
been studying the orbits data for the space shuttle and the spacecrafts that 
orbited the moon and again I notice some interesting anomalies, see articles 
on the website noted above).

  Ultimately all of the anomalies that I briefly noted here lead me to 
suspect that we may have to take a hard look at Newton's inverse square law. 
  This law has never been challenged and is also retained by Einstein to 
develop the general theory of relativity.

  In summary, I hope I have sparked some interest.  If so, I would very much 
to find out how I can work with you and other scientists at NASA and JPL on 
this exciting project, viz., repeating Eratosthenes Experiment on Mars using 
the Rover.

  I can be reached at vlaxmanan@hotmail.com.


Very sincerely


V. Laxmanan

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